Comments on: Mantras explained http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/04/23/mantras-explained/ My life as a father, Buddhist and Japanophile. Sat, 11 Jun 2011 01:53:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Gerald Ford http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/04/23/mantras-explained/#comment-353 Gerald Ford Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:40:28 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-353 P.S. I finally forced myself to learn HTML 4.01 strict, and once I got the hang of it, it's kind of cool. Worth trying to transition to. :D P.S. I finally forced myself to learn HTML 4.01 strict, and once I got the hang of it, it’s kind of cool. Worth trying to transition to. :D

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By: Gerald Ford http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/04/23/mantras-explained/#comment-352 Gerald Ford Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:13:28 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-352 Hi Jayarava, Always good to see you. :) You're probably right, in that one can demystify too much, but I think at an introductory level of Buddhism, it's good to present a concrete application to mantra reciting, beyond the esoteric stuff. The article I cited actually does say that most mantras are provided by a trained master of a lineage, implying that there's more to the mindfulness stuff. But at the same time, one can approach mantras from a short-term and longer-term set of benefits. Since Buddhism is about investigation, I think the article is right in saying that if you want to investigate mantras, try out a public mantra, and see if it helps you focus and such. From there, as your practice deepens, then one can delve into deeper mysteries. By the way, the Youtube video grossed me out in a way. I am really squeamish, but it was pretty interesting to see her experience of a stroke. I think her interpretation of Nirvana is a little off (Bhikkhu Bodhi explains is better than anyone I've ever heard), but it was pretty fascinating. Hi Jayarava,

Always good to see you. :)

You’re probably right, in that one can demystify too much, but I think at an introductory level of Buddhism, it’s good to present a concrete application to mantra reciting, beyond the esoteric stuff. The article I cited actually does say that most mantras are provided by a trained master of a lineage, implying that there’s more to the mindfulness stuff. But at the same time, one can approach mantras from a short-term and longer-term set of benefits. Since Buddhism is about investigation, I think the article is right in saying that if you want to investigate mantras, try out a public mantra, and see if it helps you focus and such. From there, as your practice deepens, then one can delve into deeper mysteries.

By the way, the Youtube video grossed me out in a way. I am really squeamish, but it was pretty interesting to see her experience of a stroke. I think her interpretation of Nirvana is a little off (Bhikkhu Bodhi explains is better than anyone I’ve ever heard), but it was pretty fascinating.

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By: jayarava http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/04/23/mantras-explained/#comment-351 jayarava Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:13:12 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-351 Hi Gerald, I know what you mean about backward Buddhists. Bunch of Luddites. I design to HTML 4.01 (transitional). I must get onto "strict" - I think only my tables fail. But there's no excuse for frames in this day and age ;-) I wonder whether this demystification of mantras might not have gone a little too far. The benefits you mention are equally applicable to any form of meditation, but also just deep breathing. There is something about the use of sounds which *creates* an experience rather than simply opening the mind to the possibility. I think it doesn't do justice to the possibility of invoking qualities like compassion via a mantra. Mantras function as archetypal symbols as well - this is not mysticism, but related to the two sides of the brain thing. Which reminds me... have you seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU I'd be interested to hear/read your thoughts on it. Best Wishes Jayarava Hi Gerald,

I know what you mean about backward Buddhists. Bunch of Luddites. I design to HTML 4.01 (transitional). I must get onto “strict” – I think only my tables fail. But there’s no excuse for frames in this day and age ;-)

I wonder whether this demystification of mantras might not have gone a little too far. The benefits you mention are equally applicable to any form of meditation, but also just deep breathing. There is something about the use of sounds which *creates* an experience rather than simply opening the mind to the possibility. I think it doesn’t do justice to the possibility of invoking qualities like compassion via a mantra. Mantras function as archetypal symbols as well – this is not mysticism, but related to the two sides of the brain thing. Which reminds me… have you seen this:

I’d be interested to hear/read your thoughts on it.

Best Wishes
Jayarava

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