Comments on: Buddhism and Gay Marriage http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/ My Life as a Buddhist, Father and Japanophile... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:56:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Doug http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-3606 Doug Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:11:00 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-3606 Hello, A-dawg and welcome to the JLR. Yes, it is interesting. :) Hello, A-dawg and welcome to the JLR. Yes, it is interesting. :)

]]> By: A-dawg http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-3588 A-dawg Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:34:41 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-3588 Eeeeenteresteeeng.... :-] Eeeeenteresteeeng…. :-]

]]> By: Gerald Ford http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-1178 Gerald Ford Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:31:28 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-1178 <strong>Walt:</strong> Welcome to the L8B! True not everyone agrees with the conclustions, but Buddhism, like all major religions, is quite broad, and brings many people with many backgrounds to it. If one practices Buddhism long enough though, I think they become more tolerant and kind over time, so even the worst of individuals is subject to change. ;) <strong>Molly:</strong> Yup, I noticed it. :) Thanks very much for the kind nod, and welcome to the L8B! I don't get a lot of folks from the big-name periodicals here, so I do appreciate the visit. Walt: Welcome to the L8B! True not everyone agrees with the conclustions, but Buddhism, like all major religions, is quite broad, and brings many people with many backgrounds to it. If one practices Buddhism long enough though, I think they become more tolerant and kind over time, so even the worst of individuals is subject to change. ;)

Molly: Yup, I noticed it. :) Thanks very much for the kind nod, and welcome to the L8B! I don’t get a lot of folks from the big-name periodicals here, so I do appreciate the visit.

]]> By: Molly http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-1174 Molly Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:43:59 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-1174 Hi Gerald/Level 8, just a note to say that I blogged this over at SunSpace today. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for the fuel. Molly Hi Gerald/Level 8, just a note to say that I blogged this over at SunSpace today. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for the fuel.
Molly

]]> By: Walt http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-1175 Walt Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:23:50 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-1175 A beautiful and succinct exploration of the issue and Buddhism's views on the matter. While some may not agree with your conclusions, I think your analysis is a tremendous act of generosity and it makes me happy to have stumbled upon it. I like your references to the suttas, the comic strip that frames your argument, and the concise way in which you argue and make your point. Very good indeed! A beautiful and succinct exploration of the issue and Buddhism’s views on the matter. While some may not agree with your conclusions, I think your analysis is a tremendous act of generosity and it makes me happy to have stumbled upon it. I like your references to the suttas, the comic strip that frames your argument, and the concise way in which you argue and make your point. Very good indeed!

]]> By: Gerald Ford http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-1176 Gerald Ford Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:51:42 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-1176 <strong>Tornado:</strong> It's easy to get into the trap of "tradition" so I can't blame you. :) <strong>Erg:</strong> Interesting story, thanks for asking. <strong>David Thomas:</strong> Thanks and welcome to the L8B! As a hetero who is married, I am happy to say that marriage is good for the right pair of people, and can be a wonderful thing to do. I am quite happy I married the girl I did (and now with a daughter), and we've been together for 5 years of marriage, and 10 years since dating. ;) Tornado: It’s easy to get into the trap of “tradition” so I can’t blame you. :)

Erg: Interesting story, thanks for asking.

David Thomas: Thanks and welcome to the L8B! As a hetero who is married, I am happy to say that marriage is good for the right pair of people, and can be a wonderful thing to do. I am quite happy I married the girl I did (and now with a daughter), and we’ve been together for 5 years of marriage, and 10 years since dating. ;)

]]> By: David Thomas http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-1177 David Thomas Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:41:56 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-1177 Thanks for the information on marriage and gays re: Buddhism. I'm not a scholar and don't have the time to research such things. My Lama, Sogyal Rinpoche, presides at weddings, but it seems all he does is give the couple a teaching and a blessing. Weddings in Europe were once for the nobility only. The whole "marriage" thing has become big business. Let the hetero community have it. They've made a thorough mess of marriage with the high failure rate. Who needs it? Thanks for the information on marriage and gays re: Buddhism. I’m not a scholar and don’t have the time to research such things. My Lama, Sogyal Rinpoche, presides at weddings, but it seems all he does is give the couple a teaching and a blessing. Weddings in Europe were once for the nobility only. The whole “marriage” thing has become big business. Let the hetero community have it. They’ve made a thorough mess of marriage with the high failure rate. Who needs it?

]]> By: erg http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-1173 erg Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:17:22 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-1173 I was talking to some people involved with the HRC's ground game and the pro-prop 8 forces GOTV effort was integrated across organizations while the anti-forces, like anything the gay rights movement does, was splintered. A good GOTV push will give you anywhere from 2-6% points on election day (probably closer to 2 given it was a presidential year and turnout was up anyway) so that may have played in too. What happened was unfair, but the key lesson here is our side needs to get its game together, because right now we are a mess. I was talking to some people involved with the HRC’s ground game and the pro-prop 8 forces GOTV effort was integrated across organizations while the anti-forces, like anything the gay rights movement does, was splintered. A good GOTV push will give you anywhere from 2-6% points on election day (probably closer to 2 given it was a presidential year and turnout was up anyway) so that may have played in too. What happened was unfair, but the key lesson here is our side needs to get its game together, because right now we are a mess.

]]> By: Tornadoes28 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-1172 Tornadoes28 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:37:35 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-1172 For a half a second I was thinking of voting yes on 8 partly for the stupid reason that I am married in a "traditional" marriage and why should all of a sudden we allow this type of marriage that has never existed in 2000 years. But then I realized that is a stupid reason to vote for this proposition. If they want to get married, fine. Plus, whether you like it or not, it is wrong to use the constitution to take away a right. The American Constitution and therefore the states do not allow the tyranny of the majority to suppress a minority. Unfortunately it has happened in the past (slavery, etc) but we should not let it happen again. For a half a second I was thinking of voting yes on 8 partly for the stupid reason that I am married in a “traditional” marriage and why should all of a sudden we allow this type of marriage that has never existed in 2000 years. But then I realized that is a stupid reason to vote for this proposition. If they want to get married, fine. Plus, whether you like it or not, it is wrong to use the constitution to take away a right.

The American Constitution and therefore the states do not allow the tyranny of the majority to suppress a minority. Unfortunately it has happened in the past (slavery, etc) but we should not let it happen again.

]]> By: Jishin http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2008/11/19/buddhism-and-gay-marriage/#comment-1171 Jishin Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:10:13 +0000 http://level8.wordpress.com/?p=1788#comment-1171 PS have a look at this webpage for photos of a traditional Shin Buddhist wedding in Japan: http://www.honganji.or.jp/butuzen.html PS have a look at this webpage for photos of a traditional Shin Buddhist wedding in Japan:
http://www.honganji.or.jp/butuzen.html

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