Comments on: “American” Buddhism equals “Prostetant” Buddhism? http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/ My life as a father, Buddhist and Japanophile. Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:44:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Doug 陀愚 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/#comment-5539 Doug 陀愚 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 06:14:55 +0000 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/?p=10538#comment-5539 Hi Rory, Yeah, I feel like there's a wealth and good information I am only beginning to understand. I just wish it was available in a wider audience. Ah well. Hi Rory,

Yeah, I feel like there’s a wealth and good information I am only beginning to understand. I just wish it was available in a wider audience. Ah well.

]]> By: rory http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/#comment-5507 rory Fri, 04 Feb 2011 05:19:37 +0000 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/?p=10538#comment-5507 Gregory Schopen is a terrific scholar Doug. he's done great work on monasticism as well. Bernard Faure... Gregory Schopen is a terrific scholar Doug. he’s done great work on monasticism as well. Bernard Faure…

]]> By: Doug 陀愚 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/#comment-5467 Doug 陀愚 Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:45:00 +0000 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/?p=10538#comment-5467 Ha ha ha, "Dig Doug". You must have played that too in a time gone by. :-). Yeah, good point about Asian scholars having to hide their faith in academic circles. I never really thought about that but looking back at certain books I've read, it certainly seems that way now in hindsight! Ha ha ha, “Dig Doug”. You must have played that too in a time gone by. :-) . Yeah, good point about Asian scholars having to hide their faith in academic circles. I never really thought about that but looking back at certain books I’ve read, it certainly seems that way now in hindsight!

]]> By: Stephen http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/#comment-5463 Stephen Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:14:19 +0000 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/?p=10538#comment-5463 I give this a mega "dig doug". As an added opinion I have found it a pity that scholars in Japan have made such efforts to justify their traditions on the "Protestant bias" in order to gain recognition in the West as being credible, while hiding the practised tradition. It is nice to hear that this is not universal. Stephen I give this a mega “dig doug”.
As an added opinion I have found it a pity that scholars in Japan have made such efforts to justify their traditions on the “Protestant bias” in order to gain recognition in the West as being credible, while hiding the practised tradition. It is nice to hear that this is not universal.
Stephen

]]> By: Doug 陀愚 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/#comment-5453 Doug 陀愚 Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:03:31 +0000 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/?p=10538#comment-5453 Hi tzopilotl and welcome to the JLR. I haven't heard of that book before, but it sounds pretty interesting. The book by Reader and Tanabe actually did talk about how other studies have shown that the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages was similarly pragmatic, but the book did not explain this other study further. Maybe things changed, maybe they didn't, I am not sure. Hi tzopilotl and welcome to the JLR. I haven’t heard of that book before, but it sounds pretty interesting. The book by Reader and Tanabe actually did talk about how other studies have shown that the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages was similarly pragmatic, but the book did not explain this other study further. Maybe things changed, maybe they didn’t, I am not sure.

]]> By: tzopilotl http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/#comment-5451 tzopilotl Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:15:56 +0000 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/?p=10538#comment-5451 ...i am reading, village japan(Niiike), by beardsley, hall, ward, uchicago press, researched 1950, published 1959. at hamlet level buddhism and shinto facilitate ancestor worship, ceremony often is mixed between them, and both interact with the found peculiaritys of the village harvest year, and yield to it in a pragmatism one would wish from the rigid faiths of the west. faith is not trumpeted, not all attend, but there is always a representative for whatever reason of absence. the decorum seems shy, but it is respect for devotion and the feelings of others during worship. …i am reading, village japan(Niiike),
by beardsley, hall, ward, uchicago press,
researched 1950, published 1959.
at hamlet level buddhism and shinto
facilitate ancestor worship, ceremony
often is mixed between them, and both interact with the found peculiaritys
of the village harvest year, and yield
to it in a pragmatism one would wish
from the rigid faiths of the west.
faith is not trumpeted, not all attend,
but there is always a representative for
whatever reason of absence. the decorum
seems shy, but it is respect for devotion
and the feelings of others during worship.

]]> By: Doug 陀愚 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/#comment-5449 Doug 陀愚 Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:56:46 +0000 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/?p=10538#comment-5449 Hi Nathan and welcome to the JLR! I agree that much of what we see in Buddhism arises out of particular conditions that we were not a part of, and may never fully understand. Better to appreciate what we have now. :-) Hi Nathan and welcome to the JLR! I agree that much of what we see in Buddhism arises out of particular conditions that we were not a part of, and may never fully understand. Better to appreciate what we have now. :-)

]]> By: nathan http://japanlifeandreligion.com/2011/01/29/american-buddhism-equals-prostetant-buddhism/#comment-5448 nathan Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:47:09 +0000 http://japanlifeandreligion.com/?p=10538#comment-5448 This is an important post. I've seen some of these same trends, and most of us don't get it. I've gotten into arguments with people dismissing forms of practice not based on text, or on meditation practice even - because to me, those views are attachments to forms. Practice takes many forms, and will look different in different conditions. We don't know the whole historical story of Buddhism either. It's only a partial record. So, I'd rather be open to possibilities than thinking that "my way" is the only way. This is an important post. I’ve seen some of these same trends, and most of us don’t get it. I’ve gotten into arguments with people dismissing forms of practice not based on text, or on meditation practice even – because to me, those views are attachments to forms. Practice takes many forms, and will look different in different conditions. We don’t know the whole historical story of Buddhism either. It’s only a partial record. So, I’d rather be open to possibilities than thinking that “my way” is the only way.

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